21st Century King James Version. Ecclesiastes 8:13. wicked men sometimes do not live out half their days, which, according to the course of nature, and common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, ( Ecclesiastes 7:15 ) ; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is quickly gone; or . 2. There is a serenity that comes with things starting to make senseand with trusting that God knows whatHes doing when things still dont. It doesn't matter to God that I lie or I steal or whatever because look, I'm blessed. [1.] CONCLUSION: Heavenly wisdom makes a man a good man,. The next set of verses concerns following kingly authorityhuman governmentas a matter of life and death (verses 2-9). Thinks he has put one over on God. [3] Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him. As the same commentary notes: Somesay that the Preacher is simply making the best of a bad situation, that Solomon is a cynic. It's emptiness. Just as there is no escape from a battle, so there is no guaranteed success to wrongdoers (6-8).Often there appears to be no principle of justice at work in the world. And, as the end of verse 1 tells us, this wisdom can dispel the gloom and brighten mans otherwise hard looks (Walter Kaiser, Ecclesiastes: Total Life, p. 89). Ecclesiastes 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12-13; Ecclesiastes 5:18-19). This joy will make labor more enjoyable. Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun. The wicked go unpunished and, even when they are dead and buried, people still praise them for their achievements in life (9-10). In Solomon's reign the people were very rich, and lived in prosperity, which perhaps made them proud and petulant, and when the taxes were high, though they had enough to pay them with, it is probable that many conducted themselves . You can't really come to the king and say, "Hey, what are you doing?" He's very long-suffering. abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God gi _No good for a man, &c. Some commentators think the wise man here In fact, Solomon himself wrote elsewhere, The fear of the LORD prolongs days, but the years of the wicked will be shortened (Proverbs 10:27 Proverbs 10:27The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.American King James Version). Furthermore, the verses in chapter 8 do not seem to speak of human government rectifying problems so much as of us taking care to not run afoul of government (we will see similar verses in this regard in chapter 10). Ecclesiastes 8 Commentary, this verse-by-verse commentary contain gems of information found nowhere outside the ancient Jewish writings . Here he shows, 1. of
Though a man be ever so industrious, thou he labour to seek it out. No fault is to be found with God; but, as to the world, This is vanity upon the earth, and again, This is also vanity, that is, it is a certain evidence that the things of this world are not the best things nor were ever designed to make a portion and happiness for us, for, if they had, God would not have allotted so much of this world's wealth to his worst enemies and so much of its troubles to his best friends; there must therefore be another life after this the joys and griefs of which must be real and substantial, and able to make men truly happy or truly miserable, for this world does neither. And one ruling another to that ones own hurt here is evidently a mistranslation. 3 Be not hasty to go out of his sight. THE FOLLOWING COMMENTARY COVERS CHAPTER S 1 THROUGH 12. [7] If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chastens not? can do is to enjoy life while he has it. He, for his part, had applied his heart to know this wisdom, and to see the business that is done, by the divine Providence, upon the earth, to find out if there were any certain scheme, any constant rule or method, by which the affairs of this lower world were administered, any course of government as sure and steady as the course of nature, so that by what is done now we might as certainly foretel what will be done next as by the moon's changing now we can foretel when it will be at the full; this he would fain have found out. The Book of Ecclesiastes is, up to a certain point, the converse of For the time being we are subject to human rule. The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. Solomon in Proverbs 10:7 Proverbs 10:7The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.American King James Versionwrote, The memory of the righteous is blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot. Perhaps the frustration in Ecclesiastes 8:10 Ecclesiastes 8:10And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.American King James Versionis simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what theyd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in Gods temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. The words There is are in italics in the NKJV, showing theyve been added to the original wordingunnecessarily in this case. And who knoweth the interpretation of a thing? Sermon Bible Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:1-15. 2. drinking, and all manner of carnal deli Ecclesiastes 8:15 commended H7623 (H8765) enjoyment H8057 man H120 in actual life. His reply is not an observation, but the answer of faith. He believes what he cannot seethat one day all will be well for everyone who lives in the fear of God (Ryken, p. 196). The Targum interprets it of the joy of the law; What does Ecclesiastes 8:15 mean? That is because people end up sitting on death row for decades. mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortab Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the And the same is true of God. Yes, there is vanity under the sun. We see the just troubled and perplexed in their own minds, the wicked easy, fearless, and secure,--the just crossed and afflicted by the divine Providence, the wicked prosperous, successful, and smiled upon,--the just, censured, reproached, and run down, by the higher powers, the wicked applauded and preferred. We_ have here an image which will not disgrace carried out. People should not despair over these problems, but rather enjoy whatever God has given them in life (15). Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Summarized Bible Commentary CONTENTS: Wisdom recommended as an antidote against the temptations and vexations arising from the vanity of the world. He maintains his patience, moreover, in spite of the moral burdens he carries that might otherwise cause him to act impetuously (v. 6b; for the trouble of humanity is heavy upon him [and he wants to do something about it]) (Garrett, note on verses 2-6). 2 I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that because of thy oath to God. "Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.". [22] For oftentimes also your own heart knows that you yourself likewise have cursed others. Weve seen that what we might assume to be for the best or worst is not necessarily so (6:17:15) and that all bear part in the worlds problemswith no one being innocent and deserving a trouble-free life (Ecclesiastes 7:16-29 Ecclesiastes 7:16-29 [16] Be not righteous over much; neither make yourself over wise: why should you destroy yourself ? man's wisdom makes his face to shine, and the boldness of his face a man's wisdom makes his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed. Then I commended mirth These are some more of the cavils of the infidel objector: "Since virtue is frequently under oppression, and vice triumphs in health, and rolls in wealth, I see plainly that we should not trouble ourselves about future things; and therefore should be governed by the maxim EDE, BIBE, LUDE. God is exceedingly long-suffering. We must get ready for sudden evils, and especially for sudden death ( v. 6-8 ). evil. O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! A righteous man gets cancer; an unrighteous man gets cancer. There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). CONCLUSION: Heavenly wisdom makes a man a good man, Ecclesiastes 8:1. Add To Cart. Then I commended mirth All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongs his life in his wickedness. ASV Still, we must not treat God flippantly or carelessly. Benefits of wisdom, respecting government and
6 [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? They will wait for a suitable opportunity to act, then act in such a way that, though they do not disobey the king, neither do they sin against their conscience (2-5).Despite the compromise he recommends, the writer knows that people remain uneasy about the outcome and about the future in general. Post mortem nulla voluptas.". thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortable use The Hebrew word is applied not only to the pleasures arising from the physical senses, but also frequently to religious joy. Of the righteous and the wicked (Ecclesiastes 8:11) 3. heads and be cheerful, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God in (see NOTE TO PROVERBS below) It is the There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happens according to the work of the wicked; again, there be wicked men, to whom it happens according to the work of the righteous: so I said that this also is vanity ( Ecclesiastes 8:13-14 ). alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days It's going to be well with the man who has departed from evil. Let us be ever thankful for the days of our lives. That all of the talk of the rapture of the church and the return of Jesus Christ is just piped dreams, a misinterpretation of scriptures. Now in chapter 8, Solomon tells us to exercise wisdom and righteousness to help reduce and manage problems in many cases, maintain proper perspective and find joy in life and ultimate reward from God. No power in death. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? which God giveth him under the sun; man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. ". Mirth therefore, and a contented enjoyment of God's gifts, preferable to immoderate care and search, Ecclesiastes 8:15. Thinks that he has been clever and has hid his sin from God, or worse yet, thinks that God is condoning what he has done. 16 When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) 17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it. Honor all men. for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ). in whatsoever state condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of "It doesn't really matter to God how I live. these men against divine Providence, and the inferences they dra Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, American King James Version). better H2896 sun H8121 eat H398 (H8800) drink H8354 (H8800) merry [2.] man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases god; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food H8055 (H8800) remain H3867 (H8799) labor H5999 days H3117 life H241 CHAPTER 8 ADVICE WITH REGARD TO SERVING THE KING. God does care. Wisdom helps people see the underlying meaning of things and teaches them that to act with pleasantness is better than to act with harshness (8:1). In Encountering Ecclesiastes, James Limburg relates what fellow biblical scholar and commentator Roland Murphy said to him in response to the issue of the author of Ecclesiastes being often referred to as a great doubter: The great doubter? a man's wisdom makes his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed.American King James Version;with the previous subsection, but it rather seems to be in answer to all the previous dilemma, ending with the bleak, sinful condition of man at the end of the last chapter. Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. That improves our situation in life and keeps us from ways that would make things worse for ourselves. Ecclesiastes 8:14-17 That's a fatal mistake to make. sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide Verse 1 extols having wisdom. [23] All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me. The first part of Ecclesiastes 8:3 Ecclesiastes 8:3Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him.American King James Versiontells us not to be quick to leave the ruler. 3:22 ) ( 5:18 ) ; TEXT 8:14-17 By any of these interpretations, many see here a statement about not being able to withstand the inevitability of death generally. In view of these contradictions, Solomon again recommended the enjoyment of life, not in a pleasure-mad way but in the sense of enjoying the fruits of ones labor (cf. Benson Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:14-15. Viewed by itself, and apart from its conte ECCLESIASTESNOTE ON ECCLESIASTES 8:14 It is a puzzling VANITY that therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). That's the sum of life for you, so you might as well live it up because you're going to be burning after a while. So, "Though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and his days be prolonged,". Keeping this in mind results in a deep and abiding reverence for Godloving and trusting Him while recognizing His supreme power and holiness (see Hebrews 12:28-29 Hebrews 12:28-29 [28] Why we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: American King James Version, Ecclesiastes 7:19 Ecclesiastes 7:19Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city.American King James Version). . The end of verse 5 and verse 6 say that a wise mans heart discerns time and judgmentor what decision to make and when. This is the perspective that must be maintainedalong with understanding what the future will bring. because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry; of earthly things there is nothing better than for a man freely and cheerfully, with moderation and thankfulness, to enjoy what God has given him; this is what had been observed before, Ecclesiastes 2:24; and is not the language of an epicure, or a carnal man, who observing that no difference is made between the righteous and the wicked, that it is as well or better with the wicked than the righteous, determines to give up himself to sensual lusts and pleasures; but it is the good and wholesome advice of the wise man, for men to be easy under every providence, satisfied with their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and pleasant, and not distress themselves about things they cannot alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life. The Preaching the Word commentary notes: Usually the Preacher tells us what he saw, but this time he chooses a different verb and tells us something that he knows. This is not something that he has seen from a distance, but something he has grasped with the rational conviction of his own mind. American King James Version). IV. 2: vanitas vanitatum dixit Ecclesiastes vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas. neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he fears not before God. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? Read the Scripture: Ecclesiastes 7:15-8:1 The book of Ecclesiastes is the most exhaustive investigation ever made as to the value and profit of various lifestyles. He would not have us to be surprised at it, as though some strange thing happened, for he himself saw it in his days, Ecclesiastes 8:14; Ecclesiastes 8:14. "But it shall not be well with the wicked.". The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot. ( Ecclesiastes 8:1-4 ). Ecclesiastes 8:15 NIV - So I commend the enjoyment of life, - Bible Gateway Read the Bible Reading Plans Advanced Search Available Versions Audio Bibles Study Tools Scripture Engagement More Resources Explore More Newsletters Devotionals Bible Gateway App Bible Audio App Bible Gateway Blog Bible Gateway Plus Store Bibles Deals More Passage Perhaps some type of pledge of allegiance to the king or kingdom among the general populace was customary at that time. Notice that the Preacher is giving us a God-centered perspective and that in verse 15 he is talking about the days of our life as a gift from God. Note that the obedience to the king is for the sake of your oath to God (same verse). Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. Be the first to review this product. lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. That is a tragic, fatal mistake of misinterpreting God's grace and God's goodness to you. Fear God. And it's probably true. To live a God-fearing life is to live in constant awareness of the presence of God, who is even closer than a prayer away (pp. Copyright 2023, Bible Study Tools. [10] For they truly for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. It has a spirit of hopeless despair; it has no praise or peace; it seems to promote questionable conduct. 1. the Book of Proverbs. 8 Who is as the wise man? Ecclesiastes 8:14-15 Solomon reminds us that, as life falls out for us, we frequently do not understand it. One of the common mistakes that people make is that of misinterpreting the nature of God. American King James Version). The Preacher is growing more and more confident about this joy. The writer knows what the traditional teachers say: that those who fear God will be rewarded and those who are wicked will be punished (12b-13). element of thought mingles with the higher fear of God, to which th FOR THAT SHALL ABIDE WITH HIM OF HIS LABOUR _And this shall borrow He's very patient. As has been pointed out before, some take a low view of the refrain. The preacher begins this chapter with the praise of wisdom, from its excellency and usefulness, Ecclesiastes 8:1; and advises men, if they would live quietly and comfortably, to honour and obey the king that rules over them, and not be rebellious against him, since he has great power and authority . Life under the sun. 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes 5:17). the WICKED appear to escape judgment and receive blessings. Some put Ecclesiastes 8:1 Ecclesiastes 8:1Who is as the wise man? eat, and to and vexations arising from the vanity of the world. potentates, who do commonly advance unworthy men, and oppress persons While this principle applies today to a certain extent, things often dont go this way, as weve seen. We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. COMMEND PLEASURE, FOR THERE IS NOTHING GOOD FOR. [Compare 1 Corinthians 15:32 1 Corinthians 15:32If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantages it me, if the dead rise not? That both he himself and many others had very closely studied the point, and searched far into the reasons of the prosperity of the wicked and the afflictions of the righteous. "There is no man that hath power, etc." ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes 5:18, the Epicurean God has given him; this is what had been observed before, ( Still, the language resembles the skeptical precept (1Co 15:32), introduced only to be refuted; and "abide" is too strong language, perhaps, for a religious man to apply to "eating" and "mirth.". it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by 19952023 All correspondence and questions should be sent to info@ucg.org. Same kind of experiences to both. yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ): Now, in the end the best life is the life of fearing God, walking with God. The beginning of verse 8 says that no one can retain the spirit in the day of death. And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. 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