Maybe they are trying to do it by not raising prices in growing economies.. Strava has never got a penny from me or any of my mates as far as I know. Bureaucracy is the death of any achievement. That was useful until it disappeared. 4. Do you have a favorite hill sprint that youre eager to PR? There is no automatic way. All thats going to do is irritate the consumer. What happens is that Apple will notify you (email) that the subscription price is increasing, about a month before the increase occurs, so you can cancel if you want. Next year, if it stays $59., Im in. I have really only kept it up as I like the service and wanted to support it. Im so tickled that my velonews subscription that I paid for 12 issues now only gives me 6 and the latest issue has a bicycle on page 11, 37, 40, and two of those pictures are in advertisements. That Plane Ticket Pricing Model gives a different price per individual. 10 in Germany is nothing compared to eastern Europe. If you are having difficulty recording a route or determining the proper path, you can contact the Strava help center. It cant take that much time to get a file of MY data! On the Strava website, visit strava.com/upload/device and find the Garmin option to authorize a link to Strava. But long-term, they focused on subscribers as their singular revenue source. Global Workouts. That does not apply only to EU companies. According to Strava Im a premium monthly subscriber. I am not even sure it is legal to charge different amounts for the same online service in the EU. In my area ( at top 6 US city) the whole area is a heat map on Strava. 1 More posts you may like r/Iota Join 4 yr. ago Import light wallet seed in trinity wallet? It will eventually come late, as it did when they tried the weird split of premium features and then recombining it (both were similarly poorly implemented). I do find the heat map useful, is there anything else there that provides similar for running and cycling? roller ski? In the Connect app (and probably on the web site) you can set up Connections. And even if there is some dubious justification for that, how can they justify that there a four different monthly euro prices, and four different euro yearly prices, but those four prices are not in line with each other for the same country of origin ie if I pay monthly in France I pay 2 more a month than Italy, but the same annually. If however, you sift long enough through Reddit threads, you eventually find a thread that talks about a support article Strava posted (or updated) on Saturday that attempts to outline what they are doing, price-wise. I cant make it more serious than that. For me, Connect really isnt a replacement for Strava. The Instinct 2 has an impressive battery life, but the company claims that it now becomes more feasible if you spend time outside. Wow Either they are grooming themselves for a buyout, or an implosion? Im actually mildly angry at this point. If you only care about yourself, Garmin Connect will be fine. 2. Im going back to the free version. Intervals.icu and many others offer much better analytics. Im US based, currently at $59.99 scheduled to renew at $59.99 July 30th. Ha, and here I was thinking if strava didnt LOWER their pricing, I was going back to the free version. Free users wanting to pay nearly $100 for what they had? Ive been a premium member since 2013. And mind you, if you think its published anywhere, its certainly not. So, sorry. Theyre still saying my next payment will be 60 USD. Just *snip* and gone. So its plausible we were travelling in Spain or Italy sometime in the fall of 2018 when we clicked Subscribe on her account. To my own big surprise I just managed to upgrade my Strava subscription via Apple to a lower amount! This is a more advanced training plan for time-crunched cyclists who have built an aerobic base and want to maintain fitness over the indoor cycling season. Left them a nice note they will ignore im sure. bikes For analysis use TrainingPeaks or GoldenCheetah. Subscriber since 2019. @$80+, thats RWGPS pricing and routes there a better. Customer: How much with a ticket from Amsterdam to Seattle cost if I book 10 minutes from now? I found a support doc at Garmin that tells how to create segments, but none of the IRL rides Ive done have the tab for segments, even after changing the ride type. This was the first year I paid for the annual, purely out of respecting them for a solid product and offering. Between the accountants and the software people every company can certainly forecast pricing with a high rate of detail & churn. Today, however, Im left flabbergasted. The Explore 2 features a 3-inch screen, sitting between the diminutive Edge 830 and the larger dimensions of the 1040 (and its predecessor the 1030). Stunning, sandy beaches. Could it be an Apple App Store requirement? Looking at my old receipts I used to pay only 18 annually. Then in December, the offer had dropped to the original $59. You cancelled Strava. If the price goes up and if thats how theyre going to treat their customers, Ill cancel. Garmin, etc.) I took some business/retail courses in college, and its astounding how well retailers have the game down. So on one hand if all the segments, etc were free to users then they would have a business model that is based on selling that agregated data.More data points, and so better info to sell. You can go as deep as you want in-depth analytics, allowing you to stay on top of this runners mind for as long as you want. Very proud of this run as it's the furthest I've ever Cancelled in protest - collective action works #solidarity . If a company wants to officialy do business in that market it has to comply with that markets regulations. This 8-week 10K plan builds your speed but also improves your stamina. U.K in . Garmin Epix (Gen 2) essentially replaces the Fenix 7 with all of its best features, including a beautiful color AMOLED screen, and its the best on the market. Do they really think that such language resonates with their user base? When a customer wants to buy an electronically supplied service, such as cloud services, data warehousing or website hosting, from a trader established in another Member State. Scroll down and tap on the Connect IQ Apps option. And arrangements like you suggest are usually frowned upon by regulators I think. The deal was 60 days free, then $80/yr (US). I just discovered that Strava has a Premium option including training plans, with the option to train outdoors. I mean, thats what I wrote till I noticed my wife was signed up monthly for the last 5 years, which, is actually my mistake. You'll be asked to log into Strava. Disclaimer: I am not a big fan of social network and don't like to post my workouts publicly on Instagram, Facebook or Strava. How does this translate to my Garmin? . Wages are different. If you were happy with the features of a cheaper subscription and then had to pay for features you dont use I would say the price of your subscription just went up. For some reason I thought that only certain people on TrainerRoad were paying the $129 a year. Ive been a member since 2011 and a paying member since 2013! Alright, not too bad. 419 SEK next payment in July this year. We find that the Progress tab is especially motivating, and shows your fitness levels over time, and whether you're trending up or down. Im not kidding. And what happened?.my rate is $7.99 a month again. I wonder what they will charge me. That I cant be sure about that is the point of this article. He is not an elected official. Long ago (I think it disappeared years ago) you could search in Connect for activities near any point youd like, something like Stravas Flyby. Links to websites should be avoided. I had also (and still have) different price if i try to buy through my mobile app or web app. The truth is they should either eliminate, or drastically cut back their free offerings, and yeah probably need to raise more money and hike their subscription prices but doing that would potentially decimate their membership, cutting their own throats. I guess it just needs the right person to notify authorities of this. For more than 20 years, CTS has inspired and coached more than 20,000 athletes to greater fitness and performance. It went up to $76.99 CDN in November 2020, and has remained there for 2021 and 2022. Any ride I did over 30 miles since they released this feature was a Strava suggested route. New Garmin 530 Cycling Computer: Should you Upgrade your 520 or 520 Plus? Its just sounding so bizarre. A subscription includes access to training plans from expert coaches to help you achieve your running and riding goals. link to digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu, Or to quote the actual Regulation Article 6: Ensure that Garmin Connect and the Strava apps are installed on your smartphone. Can I pair my heart rate chest strap to my Apple Watch? The main draw is Strava Segments, which works out where you run and how you've performed within pre-defined areas called Segments. Bluetooth and heart rate sensors are not required for you to use the data from the Apple Watch. Thanks for trying to make sense of nonsense. POWR! the unofficial home of Strava on Reddit - your place to post about, chat about and discuss all things Strava! In 2022, well look back at the best Apple Watches, the best Garmin Watches, and the best fitness tracking devices. Might need to look into that. Even if you dont run a lot, youd be better off with a cheaper or more general-purpose Garmin watch. Choose from ten four-week plans to get you fast and fit for your favorite sprint or climb Customize your plan based on your weekly training volume, from five hours per week to twelve Improve your fitness with bike workouts that can be completed indoors or outdoors Included free with a subscription. If not, Im out. The display features 240400 pixels, which . I saw this on Reddit and thought it was an April Fools, as my subscription showed 39 and had been for years, yet everyone was saying they had had emails. Even if you go to sign-up for a subscription, they wont list the price. Despite the fact that Healthfit displays a status as an Apple Watch in your Strava activity details, this is a minor annoyance. Do you have a favorite town sign sprint that youre eager to PR? Please enable JavaScript in your browser and refresh the page. Good grief. Edge 1030 Plus device. Also, fun fact: I cant actually find any place to update said country/address. An activity Garmin does not have (that I see). If you just signed up for this dumpster fire of a situation since November 23rd, 2022, then we wont increase your price for now. I have virtually no use for Segments. 1) Create a VPN connection to the country in question This is also the case for the US or any other market. And the UK should be pounds, not euros. On the website I cant find any list of subscriber features Take your preparation to the next level with this training plan from CTS. A variety of smartwatches in all styles Womens fashion apps that include hybrid smartwatches are available. Im a free user, why? The training system includes an impressive number of training tools, in addition to accurate GPS and heart rate monitoring. Racing a half-marathon requires endurance and stamina. I see they have been growing the number of reports there, but dont see the equivalent of the Fitness and Freshness graph there. As of this writing, theres just a handful of UK-focused stories from the past few days from just cycling outlets. They have to set prices to what the local market will stand, not align to US costs. January is always a bad month historically in many countries, where people often review subscriptions and direct debits, especially in the dark nights of the North, whilst staying sober in January! iFIT traveled the globe to bring you the world's most exciting training locations and fully immerses you in the experience as your equipment matches real-world terrain. Theyre owned by Strava, so I must have a Strava account. I found tons of posts from 4-5 years ago and assuming both Strava and Garmin Connect came a long way. In the case of the UK monthly plan, Strava had raised UK rates from 6.99 to 8.99, about a 29% increase (though other people apparently have a 5.99 plan, so thats a 50% increase). Home of the variable pricing model. It is possible this all stems from the good intention of only raising prices as much as every specific case in every geography requires. Im not very social media connected, and have thought of dropping Strava for Connect. They have boxed themselves in. UNBELIEVABLE if some of their system DOES carry 2+ decimal places. This looks like a number of warring factions having each promised a different solution to an impossible problem and then pretending that they dont disagree with each other because some company culture document mandates harmony. What other platforms are available that offer similar/better than Strava in this regard using PC/smartphone app? They wouldnt answer when you asked What is the price?, But theres one question even more basic theyve been failing to answer for years now: Give me *one* good reason I should even have an account, let alone pay for it?. And, theyre going to try to secretly increase their price and hope no one notices? I owe Strava a big thanks! (Think those cheap tvs and other crap). The Garmin Connect app provides access to everything for free with no need to subscribe to any of the premium services. To go into more detail on Empewus comment. Finally, its also possible that theres an issue with the Strava servers. All scheduled workouts sent to the device appear in the training calendar. New workouts appear as Private and are not visible to anyone. Maybe they should get together? I found there is "Courses" equivalent to route and "Segments" to create and track segment. All it will take is the first wave of users sliding over to a free alternative platform, and the tsunami will follow. So, being the generous guy I am, I just wanted to make it clear the road they were travelling, saying in the nicest way possible, Wait, sorry, just to confirm: Strava cant tell me what the price of Strava is anymore?. Its four weeks long and its designed to improve your top-end power and speed with a variety of sprint intervals. But I get your point; the prices seem somehow calculated based on Stravas perception what people want to pay. Or ours is going to be magically increased when they seek money. Are we all missing something? First quote is from a summary, the second is from the actual regulation. The US is not an EU member, and Strava is a US company. Very proud of this run as it's the furthest I've ever Cancelled in protest - collective action works #solidarity . > Four Freedoms. 3. are left to users to flag. Doh. . A list of EU country specific enforcement bodies where and how you can report this is listed at the bottom on this website: Your device manufacturer (e.g. The stuff they added has been more social vs technical. Training mode for cross-country skiing without snow :). I recall different options with different features or you could have all three. Maybe the dont do segments anymore. Even in todays post, being able to show my account (and even my wifes accounts), and whats going on is argueably a pretty critical aspect to the post. Strava EU offices are located in Dublin Ireland. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. No love any more for what made them big in the beginning? Just seen your post and Im def following your lead. Rate changes definitely trigger shopping behavior. They sound great! US-based runner here, Strava subscription managed through my Apple device which seems to have allowed me to escape the nonsense. Most similar kinds of companies charge is USD and leave it to the payment platforms to figure out exchange rates. Seems like Strava is positioning themselves for a buyout. Press J to jump to the feed. The oldest activities in Connect are from 2008, but I think I started using its predecessor in 2007 when I started using my Garmin 60CSx regularly. RideWithGPS is fantastic for route making on a PC. This is why I pay for Premium. The advanced workout feature in Garmin Connect allows for the planning and creation of personalized fitness exercises that conform to specific training goals or targets. However, we wont show you said new price until 30 days prior to renewal. From time to time, we run tests on the MyFitnessPal app which cover a range of items, including adding new features to testing different pricing options that may or may not be presented to all MyFitnessPal users. But just be honest and clear about what those prices are going to be, and then, at a minimum attempt to justify them. Thanks! Checked my Strava status tonight. Wow! that Strava has never increased prices in the last decade.. We all have our this seems obvious thing we want changed, but practically speaking, companies cant change every thing every person asks for. Head to the Garmin Connect app on your phone. Ill probably be cancelling my premium subscription as soon as the price changes, or just because even if it doesnt actually change. The heart rate monitor on the Apple Watch drains the battery after a few hours of inactivity. In Canada and mine was charged in USD when it renewed mid-December, so with the exchange rates it came to $82.53 CAD. Well, this was simple. All these subscriptions these days also add up. Great read, thank you, didnt realise that such kids run Strava that they dont want to tell you anything. Maybe if we all cancel together theyll get the idea! All Rights Reserved. Looks like I will be canceling, I just canceled my account, and put I agree with DC rainmaker in there reason questionnaire . He is a journalist and a blogger, who I trust. I guess they have until October to sort it or theyll lose at least one more subscriber (and then their USD costs wont be paid regardless). 1. Select the Strava app and tap on the Install button. Since then I cancelled the Strava automatic payments authorization in Paypal. GUID-D9E9CF32-5A89-4140-8B6A-0A61633E397F v4. I had no idea people were paying different amounts? There may also be other factors contributing to the prices that make it difficult to publish a blanket pricing overview. Ill have to have a look at that. And a great way to have some messy money books . So, as I started mulling through this, I shot off an e-mail to Stravas PR person aiming to get some clarity. To add another data point: I have an annual Germany account and it says my next subscription in May will cost 59.99, Im in Canada, been a member since 2016 and my account says Im due to renew in May 2023 for $59.99. I have understood with Strava they are not. Try RideWithGPS. Theoretically a combination of which country youre in, when exactly you signed up, whether youre on annual or monthly plans, and finally, exactly what todays date is, relative to the date of your subscription renewal. Ive never got on too well with Garmin Connects route planning, but maybe Im due another try. Never used them. Im not a Strava user, and not willing to sign up to get data for a case here, but I think its worth a shot if someone else is willing to report it. As for my opinion: This will probably work in the short term by increasing revenue and bite them in the ass later for abusing our trust. I currently sync Garmin Connect to Strava. ps. P.S. Secondly, you included the name of the Strava PR human in their final response email, guessing you might want to cut that as you blocked it in the video? Garmin Edge 1030 users get an even better Live Segments experience with more ways to compare your training efforts. Not against a price increase. I had some fatigue because of over training and want to manage it well. Thanks for the work in at least trying to decipher the madness! The winners are the Spanish guys. 4. We can coach you know or help you do crisis management after this plays out. I will start to look around if the price goes up for me, basically just looking for the routing features (which is very nice in Strava, especially the integration with Garmin devices). Using Garmin Connect Training Plans; Viewing the Training Calendar; Interval Workouts. After initial increases were rolled out in the UK, users across the globe began incurring rate increases for billing incurred both monthly and annually. Probably wont need a VPN when registering. Same!! The no price increases in the past comment is incorrect for me. Well, thats at least slightly more clarifying than the statement e-mailed to me 30 minutes prior. Not sure its worth the increased price, didnt like the current price. This compared to Trainer Roads price increase approach is night and day. As well as having a whole host of powerful training features Strava is the Facebook of training and a great motivational tool to keep you on track. Strava used to have cheaper subscriptions but they canceled those and only offers a more expensive all feature subscription. I do really like how Garmin Connect does both though. Only value I get is trolling local clubs to see what their frequent routes are. Plus watching OUTSIDE ruin everything it touches youre probably right. Lets get rid of video then. Do you have any more recent data regarding that? I like to compare yoy mileage and 17% variable seems like a big difference. 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