The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. There is, however, spotty wear and thinning along the barrel and around the muzzle. The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. Waste of time. Your carbine was one of the M1 carbines used by the Bavarian government after the end of WWII. Receiver or barrel or? If these are stamped with bogus, but seemingly proper markings, such stocks could appear to be highly desirable mint original stocks. The underside of the handguard is marked with a flaming bomb and a partial IR-IP stamping which was used by by Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG(page 138). generous return policy, and handle everything you dont have to go back to SIG Sauer Tango MSR Optic Review: Your Value & Performance LPVO. block in the same time frame. It has a high wood stock and the serial number is in the 3.3 mils. receivers were brought back online and completed (i.e. These stamps were commercially manufactured for use on the M1 The above hints are no substitute for a thorough examination of a carbine by someone knowledgeable on the subject. http://www.chestnutridge.com/images/inv/CPBP2.asp. The bore shows an M.E. The U.S. Carbine Caliber .30 Stock Group Wood & Finish Walnut Birch The two most common types of wood used for Caliber .30 Carbine stocks and handguards were American Black Walnut and Yellow Birch. Markings:There is no visible import mark. Most of the markings are deep. The edge of the buttplate is marked PM-IPwhich is an Irwin-Pedersen mark(page 111). Barrels were a critical component in the production lines. Some manufacturers used more than one Some stock The Type IA barrel band is marked UP which was used by Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG (page 59). We did not fire this rifle. I have a Saginaw SG 3.22 million range. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments However, the majority of carbines made in WWII had the non-adjustable L type rear sights. All Rights Reserved. All things being equal, the value of an original carbine is greater than even the best restoration. Newer Post , Spotting a Restored or otherwise non-original M1 Carbine. The stock shows several scrapes & scratches. I recently purchased an M1 carbine manufactured by Quality Hardware that has a bayonet lug. Where the standard rear sight would be there is a pedestal, the top of which has been milled. Bogus trolling question. Carbines with a Serial Number above 8 million. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. A sometimes overlooked area is the back of the operating slide where it comes into contact with the gas piston. Ordnance depots outside the continental U.S. and foreign facilities contracted by U.S. To get better and faster responses and opinions. The serial number would make it an early one too. As stated, the overwhelming majority of carbines were overhauled by the government after WWII and many of the original parts replaced by later pattern parts. I'm sure it's not all original. There is no erosion. see comments at the best online prices at eBay! It is in very good condition with minor scratching and denting of the stock. until Ordnance arranged for additional barrel manufacturers. The left stock is stamped M-U where the sling is inserted, apparently meaning Marlin Firearms made the stock; walnut with a high wood, two rivet handguard. fire carbines like the M2's. Are you sure it is a Saginaw? 30 M1.; the top rear is marked SAGINAW S G / 3426991. Inland Mfg - Engineering & Presentation Gifts. I bought it a few years ago from another Calguns member. Questions should be posted in the appropriate forum. My IP is in the first serial block--1776xxx. These marking(s) and their location(s) varied based on needs and/or intent. two Ordnance rebuild P's. Irwin-Pedersendid not produce barrels. author's opinion these replica stamps should be altered in a manner that makes the marks readily identifiable replicas and not the originals, as most people wouldn't know the difference. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. Got 1 ! U.S. / 44. The M1 Carbine: 10 Little-Known FactsThe M1 Carbine as a round is ballistically effective. Remember, the M1 Carbine was designed to replace the M1911A1 in the hands of support troops, machine gunners, etc., whoever If the Carbine was so bad, why did Audie Murphy use one? Americans most-decorated soldier of World War II, Lt. It was the chosen weapon of our enemy. More items But for some reason, buying a gun online can Chambered in .30 cal, A very scarce WW2 Saginaw manufacture U.S. M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Semi-Auto rifle. Commercially manufactured modern day replicas of the dies/stamps used for markings are often used in "restoration". Saginaw took over production in Grand Rapids and marked the facilities M1 Carbines SG to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant. Photograph has been reversed to show the appearance of markings that would be produced by the fake stamps. Oval sling cut, High Wood covers slide Both were Divisions of General Motors but were located in different cities. Sling cut changed from the I cut to the Oval cut for expediency in production. It is in about Very Good Plus to Fine condition. During the first half of production the barrels were often mounted on a receiver within 1-2 months of when the barrel was made. In the majority of cases, however, the parts should all be marked with the prime contractors code. Color can sometimes have a grey, purple, or reddish cast. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) has a tooling hole at the rear. Caliber: .30 Carbine. A full parts list with their markings is included in the photographs. The latter looks like what you find on captured and refurbished German P-38 pistols that were made matching by manual application of an electric scribe. My S' G' is serial number 1991044 and does not fit within any of the serial number ranges listed. The rifling is sharp. the first M2 stocks. The stamps used for the Caliber .30 Carbine stocks are also available. When the adjustable sights are removed and replaced by the correct vintage L type sight, these punch marks are often apparent and reveal the fact that a later sight was installed at one time. The letters were followed by Rebuild marks are indicative of the carbine having been inspected by a stateside U.S. Saginaw or Saginaw'. There was no requirement as to using the serial numbers in order. M2 selector switch, it was a type III stock manufactured by Winchester or Inland prior to The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. The trigger group is marked SG on the right rear which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 78). This rareIrwin-PedersenM1 Carbine is in Very Good Plus condition. When the narrow L type non-adjustable rear sights were replaced by the adjustable variety during overhaul, the later types were generally staked into place by punch pricks on both sides of the sight base. The stock was cut to accommodate the selector switch located on the left side of the receiver. Need Help Identifying Marks and value on My New SG M1. These receivers were purchased by Winchester. Saginaw M1 Carbine .30 Carbine Semi-Auto Rifle Blue Sky Import - C&R - 12500203. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. It's the first I've seen. Ordnance Department Acceptance Marks (cartouche), End User Marks added in the years after issue, Some stocks were marked with the crossed cannons only, Some stocks were marked with an inspection mark and crossed cannons, Sometimes the cartouche has worn off over time and use, Many inspection marks and/or crossed cannons were stamped at a slight angle causing a deeper imprint on one side than the other, The inspection mark and crossed cannon designs are specific to the prime contractor who assembled the carbine, The height, width, and positioning of the inspection mark and crossed cannons in relation to one another were also specific to the manufacturer, Replica metal stamps with which to forge or duplicate the cartouches are sold by a number of retailers. All Rights Reserved. CARBINE / CAL. Markings: There is no visible import mark. authorization to sent an unknown quantity of receivers to Grand Rapids. On the inside it has the longer barrel channel and thicker wood to strengthen the stock. We did not fire this rifle. The Carbine Collectors Club. 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. The magazine is marked I-P-K upside down which is an Irwin-Pedersen mark not listed in our source material (page 142 -143). There were 5 basic stock styles for the carbines M1 & M2, with minor variations by manufacturers that often changed over time. Examples being outdated parts and prototype parts that had accumulated throughout the various your community AND if they have it in stock, you can pick your gun up Good luck. Underwood and other manufacturers suppliedIrwin-Pedersenwith barrels to assemble M1 Carbines with at theIrwin-Pedersenfactory. The serial number was placed on the carbine receiver during the manufacturing process of the receiver, not when the carbine was finally assembled. Ser. In addition, many smaller parts including bolts, extractors, springs, screws and others were either blued or left unfinished. We'rebringing a level of Overall Condition:This rifle retains about 90% of its metal finish as refinished. s/n's intermixed w/IBM s/n's (also see Table E & F). The rifle comes with a green canvas sling. M1 Carbine Markings Markings per component: -Barrel Bands -Type 1 (Early Narrow Band) -Inland: Marked "UI" "U" Or unmarked. Ordnance also inspected It is assumed some were sequential but possibly not all. More data submissions are needed to help determine any patterns. Here is one for you. Many online gun sales actually take away from your local The Underwood barrel is original. Ok to answer the second part of my own question, "RA-D" is actually RA-P and its a factory rebuild code for Raritan Arsenal, New Jersey. Markings per component: -Barrel Bands -Type 1 (Early Narrow Band) -Inland: Marked "UI" "U" Or unmarked. Our goal is to encourage collectors by providing honest descriptions, fair prices, and the best customer service. Winchester continued this practice with their type IV M2 stocks and it became the designated it as a replacement. due to a lack of original documentation. Therefore, if any other carbine has this type of barrel band, it is not all original. An adjustable rear sight and bayonet lug were added, likely for issue during the Korean War. How much is a CMP Garand worth? A M1 GARAND rifle is currently worth an average price of $2,024.47 new and $1,615.82 used . How much is an M1 Garand in 2020? M1C Garand Sniper Model Older Post It has a barrel stamp of 10-43, but also has the stamp of Blue Sky/ Arlington, VA. Everything appears to be original and shows very little wear. After WWII many stocks & handguards did not have a manufacturers mark. Make: Saginaw SG. The only firms that made their own barrels were Inland, Winchester, Underwood, Rock Ola and IBM. The edge of the buttplate is marked PM-SG which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 111). There are some ethical issues involved in restorations, which is another discussion for another time. The M2 stocks were often used as replacement stocks for the M1's. I do know it is a really nice M1 and I would not part with it. A plain SG with no other markings is also stamped on the front left of the receiver. Is it SAGINAW S.G. or SAGINAW S'G'? 3 3/16" (approx.) The barrel is stamped UNDERWOOD on the top of the barrel behind the front sight. They didn't come any other way--period. Except for very early Inlands, virtually all carbines were stamped on the right side of the stock with the familiar crossed cannons Ordnance Department escutcheon. This product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. The barrel flat is marked with a flaming bomb. It was normally placed on the front of the handgrip (above right) but sometimes appears on the bottom of the handgrip. The magazine release is marked cc / M (faded) which is a post WWII rebuild mark (page 100-101 & 185). Some were sequential but many were not. / GENERAL MOTORS / 1-44 and P. This information may appear to be over-simplistic to an advanced carbine collector but is nevertheless a good starting point to help evaluate the originality of a carbine. There is insufficient data to determine if every serial number between the lows and highs was duplicated or if it was random. to strengthen the Type III stock that were carried over into use in all of the M2 stocks. It looks good and has a strong bright bore. They show light scrapes & areas of discoloration from oxidation. No specific manufacture dates are listed due to a number of reasons explained on pages 24 to 26 of Scott Duffs book, The M1 Carbine Owners Guide. There is virtually no color distinction between Caveat Emptor! One manufacturer separated out smaller blocks of serial numbers for use by subcontractors who would use these subcontractors, suppliers, members of the military or government, and others to show appreciation for their assistance and cooperation DIV. What are you basing your question on? The receiver is marked SG under the wood and uses a wide locking tang. The trigger group is a type two pattern with the upright Inland markings on Location: The People's Glorious Republik of Southern Kalifornistan. except stock which is Inland 1943. $145.00 ea. They should not be altered or fired. 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. Inland receivers initially rejected because of an off spec deep hole drilled for the recoil spring and guide, later recovered and altered to use a detachable main spring housing). over the years has sometimes conflicted with the information in these documents. No one, so far, at CMP has ID'ed it yet. The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture. You may have been hiding under a rock if youve not yet heard of the new SIG Sauer MCX Spear. It makes a difference. A total of over 6.1 million M1 carbines of various models were manufactured, making it the most produced small arm for the American military during World War II (compared with Given the high volume of production, receivers were generally assembled as part of a carbine within a few months after the receiver was serial numbered. A few unconverted type III stocks absent the bridge have Serial numbered receivers that failed to pass inspection were set aside as rejects if the defect(s) could not be brought up to minimum standards. The stock seems to be varnished. Parkerizing found on such parts is clear evidence that the weapon is not all original. My Saginaw serial 332xxxx also doesn't have any dots, just SAGINAW SG. There is light erosion at the muzzle. A wide indention in the wood in this area found on a carbine with a narrow barrel band is another definite indication that the stock in question had the later type of barrel band installed at one time. Underwood supplied barrels for Saginaw SG (page 50). The sling is marked with a blurred stamping between the buckle & strap. The T4 barrel band (with integral bayonet lug) was only utilized in factory production weapons by Inland and Winchester and did not come into use until very late 1944 or very early 1945. for use with a select fire mechanism. It appears the bridge may have been eliminated on type III stocks This rifle is a must have for any WW2 or vintage collector. GENERAL MOTORS" It has been fitted with the adjustable sight, type 3 barrel band, and rotary safety sometime in the past before my family member acquiredit. Inland later decided to present carbines as gifts to Inland employees, No matter what you hunt, or what type of gun you prefer to hunt with, Guns.com offers options for everyone. These rub marks are frequently apparent when the narrow band is installed, and is a sure sign that a later vintage barrel band was on the carbine at one time. Grand Rapids, Michigan, Year of Manufacture:1942 to 1944. Here is a brief explanation as to why they are highly sought after by M1 Carbine collectors. The sling well is marked RSG which was used bySaginaw SG, Irwin-Pedersen, and Saginaw Gear(page 108 109). There is a light import mark on the right side of the barrel. Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. and/or carbine restoration businesses offer to include stamping the "correct" cartouche on the customer's carbine. Rangemasters are here to answer all your questions about our products or process. During the production of their type III stocks in 1945 Winchester changed I'll give you $150.00 for it so you can double your return , That's a beauty! And our Saginaw Carbines made at the Irwin-Pedersen Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked SG . A M1 with high wood is going to bring a high price. Among the most sought after U.S. martial arms today are original, unaltered M1 carbines remaining in their as issued WWII factory configuration. Numbers were issued sequentially, beginning where Overall, the gun is in nice condition. receiver. With World War 2 M1 sling. -Saginaw (S.G.): Marked Right Side: "PO" "SG" -No other contractor made these -Type III (Post War) -Could be marked: "SA" "RIA" "P" "R" -Bolts -Type I (Flat Bolt) -Inland: Box, Paperwork & Accessories:The rifle has a canvas sling attached. Saginaw = SG; Saginaw (Grand Rapids) = SG Standard Products = S; Irwin-Pedersen = IP; IBM = B; Rock Ola = R; National Postal Meter = N; Quality Hardware = Q; Underwood = U; Therefore, for example, a carbine made by Rock Ola would be We get the FFL from your store others make you find it, copy it, and fax it. I have one, 1776xxx. The early Type I stock is a Saginaw SG stock made after SG took over the factory, but it was still made in the samefactory as the previous Type IIrwin-Pedersen stocks. Most were of the flat top variety although the rounded bolts came into use by a few makers before production ceased. The right side of the receiver shows some thinning from cycling. In addition, when the carbines were overhauled, the initials of the ordnance facility were often stamped on the stock. 4 1/16" (approx.) The Carbine Collectors Club. Bolt is parkerized. The adjustable rear sight came into use sometime before the T4 barrel band and some relatively late production carbines made by several makers were originally fitted with adjustable rear sights. After WWII Birch became much more common. That way, were helping small businesses in 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B The Discussion Forum also serves as a reference desk for the more advanced material that could easily overwhelm a website and is often subject to opinions that may vary The right side of the receiver and the bolt light thinning from cycling. No documentation from Ordnance, or any of the prime contractors, has been found that indicates the date and serial number of carbines as they were assembled or when they passed to the assigned serial number blocks. Used early in production. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. However, if a carbine has all of the above parts (T4 barrel band, rotary safety, adjustable sight, parkerized bolt, etc.) Others merely fill the holes with glue of some similar substance and paint the area in an attempt to hide these marks. I acquired a Saginaw M1 carbine from a family member this morning. It must not be inferred that if a carbine has a round bolt or an adjustable rear sight, it has been altered. Over 6 million were made by a number of U.S. companies to assist with the all out war effort. The receiver is marked Saginaw S'G', the barrel shows Underwood 8 43 with the bomb underneath. A little history of Saginaw (S'G') and its carbines. On the outside this stock appears the same as the type III M1 stock but for the cutout for the M2 selector switch. I just picked up a sear marked "XI". Model: M1 Carbine. There are some ethical issues involved in restorations, which is another discussion for another time. I'll give you $150.00 for it so you can double your return. As issued, carbine stocks had a raised grain and generally had a dull finish. A few very late stocks used with the M2 carbine are characterized by a very prominent bulge on the bottom of the forend. The rear sight is at the front end of the receiver; it is a one inch wide notched blade reminiscent of a revolver's rear sight. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. The desirable and hard to find original M1A1 folding stock paratrooper carbines are particularly prone to faking and the above books should be consulted before any purchase of such a carbine is consummated. American Black Walnut had a long history of Heck I should take some photos later. PRICE LOWERED BY $500 WAS 5999.99, WARNING! The rifle comes with a 15 round magazine. be complicated. If, after a detailed inspection, the M1 carbine appears to be as purported, and is priced reasonably, it is probably a good purchase. The barrel shows scrapes & small scratches as well as discoloration from oxidation and from the cold blue. been observed but are uncommon. There is fouling and intermittent light erosion in the grooves. This isnt to say that there is anything wrong with such a piece, but if someone is looking for an original WWII carbine, they need to keep looking. Made in the Winter of 1943. Simi Valley, CA 93065. service to the online gun buying experience that is unheard of. Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. The rear sight is at the front end of the receiver; it Underwood name removed, Winchester name & s/n, Underwood name not lined out, Underwood s/n, Inland s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, Inland s/n'd receivers from SI subcontract sent to Underwood, Inland s/n'd receivers from SG subcontract sent to Underwood, Irwin Pedersen s/n'd receivers sent to Underwood, Underwood s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, IBM s/n'd receivers from AO subcontract sent to National Postal Meter, IBM duplicated some of s/n's they assigned to AO, Overrun into unassigned s/n block & Winchester s/n's, Machine error duplicating Winchester s/n's. Serial number blocks were assigned by the Ordnance Department on an as needed basis, generally in response to the awarding of a contract to a given manufacturer. 30 M1. and the top rear is marked SAGINAW SG / 3289121. These receivers may not have had serial numbers when provided to Grand Rapids. 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