The marble filmed on the wreck exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. Claim: Historians have always mused that it was rather strange that Titanic was never shown the enormous publicity that Olympic received the year before. In regard to J.P. Morgan cancelling "at the last minute," research by Mark Baber and posted on Encyclopedia Titanica actually reveals it to be an urban myth. Once it was launched then it was 'fitted out' i.e. They were metal plates which were screwed on. Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. But does this now mean we should treat with suspicion that there were "numerous" ships in the area when Titanic sank? 1 2. However his comments that the Olympic's wheelhouse was not curved Why would it be there? 1. The bulkheads were not actually sealed at the top, this oversight allowed water to flow over, filling each compartment, one at a time. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. 3. It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. Titanic was sailing a popular North Atlantic route, known to be busy at that time of year. This is demonstrably false information. So by April 1912 both ships had 16 portholes. Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. - Yes. In both cases Gardiner made this claim up! Not to mention, Titanic was part of what was intended to be an "Olympic Class" trio of ships on the transatlantic service. 19. Why only them? Crewman refused to sail on Titanic Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. Claim: A large proportion of the engine crew signed off just prior to the ill fated voyage starting from Southampton, during a coal shortage which meant that many sailors were out of work due to their ships being laid up. This woodwork has the reverse sides clearly marked. 3rd-class: 2,250. This was standard White Star Line practice. But according to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "none of Titanic's boats were reused by the White Star Line. This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. While the Californian was primarily designed to transport cotton, there is absolutely no evidence that it had a - Able Bodied Seaman Thomas Jones testified before the US Inquiry (Day 7), that he went on deck and could see some ice. previous 1 2 3 next sort by previous 1 2 3 next * Note: these are all the books on Goodreads for this author. Again no mention here that lifeboats were seen from B Deck. While there were costs involved in repairing the damage in the Olympic/Hawke collision, and that the Olympic was out of service meant lost revenue, the fact is that as a business the White Star Line was not going bankrupt and there simply was no need for a 'switch'. - Yes. It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. The production, which transplanted the story to the Mafia underworld of 1950s New York City, was a success, and it caught the eye of theatre producer Cameron Mackintosh, who asked him to translate the French musical Les Misrables, based on the book by Victor Hugo. And they were not the only ones. It is a measurement of volume or the enclosed internal space of a ship. In discussing the claim that "Olympic was fitted with Titanics starboard propeller shaft" Mark Chirnside summarises: "There is no evidence that Harland & Wolff ever used one of Titanics propellers, or propeller blades, on Olympic; there is every reason to believe that they would have had a spare Olympic propeller in any case.". Another set of poems was published by Fullers press as the broadsheet Put Thou Thy Tears into My Bottle (1969). 3 additional double-ended boilers were lit up about 8 a.m. (although they take 12 hours before they are put online) and he was sure that the ships five auxiliary Subtracting the total certified capacity of 2864 by 1047 leaves the Carpathia with "space" for 1817 - certainly not an extra 2200 from Titanic as the claim purports. Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. It is, however, agreed that crew returning to England were under instructions to give evidence at the Board of Trade Inquiry and not to talk to the media beforehand. Thirdly, the characteristics of the Olympic were already known so there was less of a learning curve to deal with. Wheelton, however, continues down to the storeroom and then went again up to the boat deck on the starboard side. 1 were never lit at all. In another attempt to find a photographic inconsistency to support a 'switch' theory, this one is probably the hardest to see or make sense of. 12. There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. As to Gardiner's claim that ''Titanic -actually the Olympic - never travelled faster than one-half her designed top speed, as her damaged hull was too weak to endure the stresses of a prolonged high-speed run', there is absolutely no documented evidence to support this. 1852) and Susannah Haryott (b. Claim: How can a ship with a bent keel go on to serve 24 years (1911-1935) without being fully repaired? and would never get a job when they got out. 33. a lifeboat, keeping older hands on deck for lowering boats. (Click image to enlarge). Ballard has nothing to gain from keeping it a secret - it would be huge publicity for him. 35. And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. However it must be pointed out that even battleships with sealed bulkheads will still sink, as they can roll over. - Lookout Reginald Lee at the British Inquiry (Day 4) ice " fall inboard. Leading Fireman Frederick Barrett testified before the British Wreck Commission that on the day of the collision In the following photographs we can clearly see a curved wheelhouse under construction during Olympic's fitting out stage, firstly just prior to launch and secondly after the launch. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above 8. Updates? Both had the same configuration of portholes in March 1912. - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). Firstly, how would White Star believe they could pull something like this off when no doubt hundreds of crew would see water pouring into the ship through the seacocks? Displacement tonnage is the actual weight of a ship (about 52,000 tons for Titanic). Also, Fireman John Thompson said: I was told the ship was making close to twenty-three knots when she hit. Chirnside and Halpern discovered that "Titanics 546 mile run from noon Saturday to noon Sunday would be her best posted of her departure many outlets resorted to using photographs and footage of Olympic, leading to much confusion over the subsequent years. The Titanic's design used some of the most advanced technology available at the time and the ship was popularly believed to be . Omissions? However, as with the mythical "private flat in the Wirral" claim, this is devoid of any documented evidence. 11 [American Inquiry, Day 7]. Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. However, this was not unique to Titanic. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. 45,000) in the last eight years. Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. The answer to this is very simple: The name during her building and her sailing are in partly different positions because in the first construction image it was written over on the negative. At present I have found no evidence of a room named "The Olympic Room" on Titanic, however it would not be surprising. The claim that Olympic got them is absurd. But for arguments sake let's take the larger of the two - the certified capacity number of both passengers and crew. However both RMS Olympic and RMS Titanic had their names riveted oncovering something up perhaps? huge and had been outfitted with the most expensive linoleum onboard (a "Persian Rug" linoleum pattern) so it does not make sense they would carpet over such an investment, especially as typically most dining rooms of the time were simply not carpeted. She had not all her boilers on, none of the single-ended A man named James A. Fenton who was a construction worker for the construction of the Titanic said they were switched. Hardly "numerous" or warranting any suspicion, especially considering We also have a substantial amount of supporting evidence to prove that Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved: 1. Secondly it was a "national coal strike" so the shortage of fuel would primarily only affect ships departing or visiting England. James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. There was nothing particulary newsworthy about her. Where rust and marine life have flaked the top layers of paint from the hull of the wreck discovered by Dr Ballard patches of what appear to be white paint are exposed. everything else was added. Claim: Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller. Fentons poems ranged from narrative to nonsense. A man in Australia, sent a letter to the Northern Star newspaper on July 31st 1996, which talks about a conversation his son had with Paddy. 27. To prove this claim Early on, she was broadly running level with Olympics Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg, 26. The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. Firstly, they had been postponed for a day due to bad weather. Our editors will review what youve submitted and determine whether to revise the article. old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. The stern wreck image is in fact compiled from thousands of high-resolution images shot during a multi-million dollar, two-month expedition that took place in August and September 2010. Interestingly, Gardiner himself has admitted the image is fake. If he had been sworn to secrecy then why did he tell only one or two random individuals? Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. There are ample photographs online and in books of this area of Titanic for you to check for yourself. (Click to enlarge). They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. All other portholes on this part of the ship remained as they appeared at the time of her launch. Compare the two videos below -one is the real footage of the Titanic name on the wreck, one is fake. His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" According to Britannica.com "on April 11, 1912, the Carpathia departed from New York City for Fiume, carrying some 740 passengers." As far as I am Fenton was also active in the theatre scene. Ship's Bell with no name on it Gardiner argues that when on the port side boat No. Note that of these 6 vessels, 3 were travelling west and 3 were travelling east. They were also not on the gunwhales but on the sides of the lifeboat. The hearings following the Olympic/Hawke collision included a damage assessment of the Olympic which was agreed upon by both White Star and the Royal Navy, and stated that the Hawkes bow had penetrated eight feet into Olympics hull. Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. Ultimately, when asked about the Olympic 'switch' theory he went on record as saying the wreck is Titanic. I think it is impossible that the Olympics keel was damaged in the collision, as Robin Gardiner speculates in his 1998 book Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank? name on it. We have been told by the look-out people that there were binoculars on the Olympic? 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